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[–]fireball226 100 points101 points ago

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That's quite the quibble you conjured up ever so quickly. Queer that this question has brought few quips but many quarrels in the past. It's almost quaint that you qualify a single letter's quality to be quashed so soundly. Neither quicksand will not save you nor your favorite quilt. I think this quirk of mine has come to an end, as my quiver has been depleted.

No, I think Q should stay.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points ago

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Q for Quendetta

[–]SteveOtts 10 points11 points ago

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That's Kwite the Kwibble you conjured up ever so Kwickly. Kweer that this Kwestion has brought few Kwips but many Kwarrels in the past. It's almost kwaint that you kwalify a single letter's kwality to be kwashed so soundly. Neither kwicksand will not save you nor your favorite kwilt. I think this kwirk of mine has come to an end, as my kwiver has been depleted.

Yeah, doesn't really ready well. The Q should stay!

[–]Kennard 6 points7 points ago

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This post is why we have qu. Kw looks stupid. The end.

[–]therealryanstev 4 points5 points ago

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It's also kweer that this kwestion never made you consider that 'qu' can be replaced with 'kw' in your examples.

[–]Hideous 1 point2 points ago

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Quanzaa?

[–]backpackwayne 0 points1 point ago

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Queer.

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[–]Boy_Bishop 4 points5 points ago

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You mean quiche.

[–]ScampAndFries 1 point2 points ago

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you mean Quorn.

[–]sillytwunt 0 points1 point ago

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But definitely not quim.

[–]ScampAndFries 0 points1 point ago

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Or Queef

[–]madjar -2 points-1 points ago

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You mean wiche.

[–]backpackwayne 1 point2 points ago

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Who's he?

[–]Crass22 0 points1 point ago

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Damn, now I am hungry for a quesadilla.

[–]JonathanDoe 0 points1 point ago

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That's kwite the kwibble you conjured up ever so kwickly. Kweer that this kwestion has brought few kwips...

Ok, I made my point. Q should go, because Q is only ever used with U, and KW can do everything QU does, and MORE!

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points ago

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Clearly you've never been to Qatar or Iraq. Q is halfway between the sound of Kappa and the sound of Gap, and gets a lot of use in Semetic languages. The Latin alphabet was stolen from semetic Phoenician, and Latin used Q extensively for relationship words we English speakers mark with a Wh (Who, What, Why, Where, When, Which). Since Latin was the quintessential language of scholarship until the early 20th century, Q was considered a letter of cosmopolitan refinement, sine qua non.

tl;dr : because History.

[–]x82517 6 points7 points ago

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You're sort of right.

The Latin alphabet, which English uses, began in around the 7th Century BC. It was an adapted version of the Greek alphabet at the time. The Greek alphabet itself was based on the Phonecian alphabet.

The Phonecian language had a /k/ sound - technically an "voiceless velar oral stop", similar to the first sound in English cat and kettle. Phoenician, being a semitic language, also had a similar sound, that was pronounced either farther back in the mouth, or with a degree of pharyngeal constriction. This is called a "voiceless uvular oral stop", or a "voiceless pharyngealized velar oral stop", and is present in modern-day Arabic and Hebrew.

The first of these sounds was represented in Phonecian with the letter that came to be Latin K, while the second was represented with the one that came to be Q. Greek only has the /k/ sound, so they used both of these symbols interchangeably for the same thing. Eventually kappa became the dominant form, and koppa (the Q) dropped out of use.

Latin did the same for a while, using K and Q interchangeably (and C too, but that's another story for another day), but after a while they settled on some stability. In Latin, the /k/ sound was actually pronounced differently before rounded vowels, which are vowels pronounced with a rounding of the lips (in Latin, these vowels are /o/ and /u/). The /k/ sound was 'labialized', which means it was pronounced with rounded lips too. So to mark this different pronunciation, the writers of the time took to writing it with Q instead of K (or C). Due to the historical relatedness of Latin and the Germanic languages, there is some correspondence between the Germanic wh- words, and Latin words with q-, but there are many Latin q- words that are not markers of relationships.

The spellings stuck, and, after sound changes over the millennia, the QU combination was essentially being pronounced as /kw/. In Middle English, following the Norman conquest and in the face of increasing Romanization of English culture, the /kw/ sound in English was spelled with QU. Previously it had been CW, but it was changed to make English look more like Latin and Old French. That's why native Germanic words like "quickly" and "queen" are spelled with a QU. (In Old English, they were spelled cwice and cwene.) Then of course, many French and Latin words were loaned into English, retaining the original spelling, which is where we get equine and bouquet.

More recently, we've gone full circle, and are now using Q to represent the uvular stop sound (which most European languages do not have) of Arabic and Hebrew when we transliterate them into Latin. Hence Iraq and Qatar; in Arabic the K and Q represent different sounds. You need to be careful when talking, or you may insult someone if you say kalb (dog) instead of qalb (heart)! I say we've gone "full circle", because if you recall, the ancestor of Q was what the Phoenicians used to represent this same sound.

tl;dr: history, and linguistics.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Thanks for going into more detail. And heh...I spelled semitic wrong. hat tipped

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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p.s. Leelu is quintessential. Think about it.

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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The quinta essentia, not the monoceros. But I do seem to like things that have one of something instead of two ;-)

[–]backpackwayne 9 points10 points ago

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C isn't very useful either.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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Yeah I've thought about this too. Hard C = K. Soft C = S. Really the letter we need is 'Ch'. And also the Spanish letter "LL" is pretty cool. It needs to be a single character, though, like ╚ .

[–]coolest_moniker_ever 4 points5 points ago

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Isn't the spanish "LL" pretty much just "y"?

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[–]coolest_moniker_ever 0 points1 point ago

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Well pla╚ed.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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lles

[–]thespite 1 point2 points ago

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Not really, but as the article states, fewer and fewer people pronounce them differently.

Also, "ll" is not a letter, but a digraph, so it doesn't really need a dedicated character.

Ñ and ç rock, by the way.

[–]cleefa 2 points3 points ago

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Agreed, sorta.

We don't have k or q in the Irish language for this reason. We just use c for all of them. ch if we want the softer sound.

[–]hmmorly 4 points5 points ago

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kokksukker

[–]backpackwayne 0 points1 point ago

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kuntlikker

[–]LordPotato 1 point2 points ago

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Something about the K makes it look pleasingly awful.

[–]ymrhawk 1 point2 points ago

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I was about to disagree but then I remember I was trying to figure out how to pronouce "Barca" when they write it for "Barcelona".

[–]thespite 0 points1 point ago

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That's because it's written "Barça" and pronounced like an S. It's the same with "facade".

Also: that's not an abbreviation for the city name. It's short for Fútbol Club Barcelona.

[–]CunningStunts 1 point2 points ago

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X is also useless.

[–]LordPotato 1 point2 points ago

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Fux you, how else would we have a xylophone, try spelling that shit without an x.

[–]CunningStunts 0 points1 point ago

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Zylophone

[–]mrchunks -1 points0 points ago

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Or E.

[–]backpackwayne 15 points16 points ago

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It's because of that asshole on Star Trek.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

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.....spoq?

[–]backpackwayne 9 points10 points ago

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CONNNNNN!!!!!!!!

[–]hobbit6 2 points3 points ago

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"You may not trust me, but you do need me. You're not prepared for what awaits you."

[–]ScampAndFries 2 points3 points ago

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Squotty?

[–]Nobodyreallycares 12 points13 points ago

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The most epic troll in the history of humanity went back in time and made it part of the alphabet, just so we would know what to call him when he made his appearance.

[–]handsandteethforest 4 points5 points ago

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LOL. Q does rule. I wish we had more of him. Hmm... perhaps Q has always been more of an IT. I suppose it depends on the episode.

[–]iHateusernames1 5 points6 points ago

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[–]hobbit6 5 points6 points ago

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A well placed Q in scrabble can get you a hundred points or more.

[–]NoNomad 4 points5 points ago

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Fucking letters, how do they work?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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it was the only way to make the keyboard design work. they had to put something in that remote corner.

[–]girigiri 0 points1 point ago

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Werty just doesn't have the same ring to it.

[–]redditaddicttt 1 point2 points ago

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Americans should have dropped it altogether like they did to U in colour, valour, etc.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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To bewilder insomniacs.

[–]galen_nick 3 points4 points ago

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it sounds like "QU" withouth the "U" ;)

[–]Lurker_Emerging 0 points1 point ago

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Because we are a quixotic bunch!

[–]Iamnotmybrain 0 points1 point ago

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The Q lobby has quite a bit of power over the English Orthographical Union. Damn their special interests!

[–]Dried_Apple 0 points1 point ago

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There's a whole list of 'Q' words without a 'U' just for scrabble.

[–]Karamazov_A 0 points1 point ago

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Q is all powerful. It does not need a use.

[–]PenAndSword 0 points1 point ago

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English and most other European languages haven't always just been about the idea within the word, it was just as important that it was esthetically pleasing to look at and read. I mean a Q is very cool...

[–]odflac 0 points1 point ago

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But if you don't have 'Q', how can you mind your P's and Q's?

[–]MonsieurLeGimp 0 points1 point ago

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I'll ask my friend Tariq in Qatar to type on his qwerty keyboard what he thinks of le coq sportif tracksuits.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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To write down klingon.

Q'apla!

EDIT: s/translate/write down

[–]Yoy0YO 0 points1 point ago

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The naming of Doubleyou is my big question to the english language. Omega looks like one, but isn't one

[–]konungursvia 0 points1 point ago

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Naw, it's Qute.

[–]nobertoooooo 0 points1 point ago

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CANTA QLAUS

[–]johnjonestheman 0 points1 point ago

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so that there can be Quahog and Queensryche.

[–]pics-or-didnt-happen 0 points1 point ago

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Because then people would have to burn the Koo-ran and that's just silly.

[–]ScampAndFries 0 points1 point ago

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Because without it, it would be hard to have a Q&A session.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I think a lot of this stuff is only a problem with English. I remember when I first learned this language when I was very young, and couldn't comprehend the teacher at all when she talked about "long a's" "short a's" and "y is only sometimes a vowel."

Previously I'd only been exposed to a language where each letter only had one specific sound. We did have 36 total letters though.

Anyway, your q issue is what I felt when I first saw "w" as well. Albanian doesn't really have it. I feel like it could just be replaced with 'u'.

Try it. Uith vs with. Uash vs wash. When you say it out loud quickly, you can't even tell the difference.

[–]Airazz 0 points1 point ago

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Also, why letter W is called DoubleYou? Why not DoubleV? Or UpsideDownM?

[–]timefishblue 0 points1 point ago

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In Latin there was only one letter for "u" and "w" sounds, and it looked like "V". (There was no "v" sound.)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Quaker!

[–]Dompola 0 points1 point ago

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Q is for Dr. Tran

[–]offroadpigeon 0 points1 point ago

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Is it weird that the first word I tried out was 'queen'? I didn't even realise how English it made me until seconds later.

[–]psyon 0 points1 point ago

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Because FAK would confuse people, but FAQ looks cool.

[–]isitedible 0 points1 point ago

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Certainly a good question.

[–]Nanaki13 0 points1 point ago

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BBQ

[–]Stevor1984 0 points1 point ago

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One of the few topics where misspelling is ok.

[–]Iconate 0 points1 point ago

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FAQ

[–]Kandarian 0 points1 point ago

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Because the alphabet is not an English invention. We simply took it from the literate Romans. Q made sense in their language while Q may not make as much sense for English.

[–]neonshadow 0 points1 point ago

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Or for that matter the letters c, j, and x.

[–]kcg5 0 points1 point ago

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You never saw TNG? You are missing out.

[–]Basil_vs_Ratigan 0 points1 point ago

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Because it is backed by powerful special interests

[–]Herodotus22 0 points1 point ago

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For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.

Generally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeiniing voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x"— bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez —tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivili.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

Mark Twain

[–]pwnageator 0 points1 point ago

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So Bond could have a contact in research and development.

[–]girigiri 0 points1 point ago

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Winner of Maxim's sexiest letter of 2010. Personally I am fond of Y.

[–]kleinbl00 0 points1 point ago

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Because it dates back to mutherfucking Egyptian heiroglyphics and does a bajillion different things in a bajillion different tongues.

Back da fuck up. Useless letters are the shit. You know damn well life would be more interesting with some æ &c to meß around with.

[–]warmpita 1 point2 points ago

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ß is my favorite bleß those Germans.

[–]Spoggerific -1 points0 points ago

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Hell yeah, useless letters! ヰ all love useless letters. ゑre would we be without them? ゐ'd all be... man, I can't come up with any way to use ヱ.

[–]kleinbl00 5 points6 points ago

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You're mixing alphabets.

This means you make no sense in at least two languages.

[–]Spoggerific 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, but I don't know any other useless characters and I wanted to be cool. :(

[–]kleinbl00 2 points3 points ago

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Cloʃe only counts in horʃeʃhoes.

[–]grigri 2 points3 points ago

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Ðat's just sad, man.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Đ is for G in Croatian. The pronunciation at least. Like a ginger is pronounced a đinđer.

[–]grigri 1 point2 points ago

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Interesting. It's an unstressed "th" in Old English, and modern Icelandic.

[–]sub_o 0 points1 point ago

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So that we can use it for words like qunt ? qlit ? qum ?

Man, talk about the possibilities.

[–]disco2disco -2 points-1 points ago

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lts gt rd f vwls t

[–]keyo_ -1 points0 points ago

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Because english is retarded. There are quite a few redundant letters.

  • C -> K or S
  • X -> Z or 'eks'
  • Y -> I or IO
  • Q -> 'keu'

While where at it there is also combinations of letters like 'Ph' that can be replaced with a single letter 'f'.

[–]EmperorSofa -1 points0 points ago

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So I can tell you to bet quiet, dumbass.

[–]inyouraeroplane -1 points0 points ago

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Quiet! Quickly quash your quasi-scientific questions that quip pointlessly about minor quibbles of English grammar.

Travel to Qatar or Iraq where the people will quaintly tell you answers to your query.

[–]dentttt -1 points0 points ago

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Q.Q

cry more, please