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[–]optiplex9000 26 points27 points ago

I don't hate them, but I think they were a step in a completely wrong direction for Star Wars

[–]Lowbacca1977 1 point2 points ago

About this. I feel they weren't bad, they just were short of what Star Wars movies could've been.

[–]EasilyRemember 38 points39 points ago*

Next time you have a few hours, watch the Plinkett Reviews on Red Letter Media:

It's been said by many that these reviews are better than the films themselves, and honestly I can see it. This guy pretty much dissects everything Lucas did wrong with the new movies, using the originals (and general film history/technique) as a basis for comparison and criticism. They're simultaneously insightful and hilarious. If you ever watch a video review (or three), make it these. They will explain to you exactly what issues people have with the prequels. Granted, they're from the perspective of someone who grew up with the original trilogy, but his points stand all the same.

[–]thisguy1111 5 points6 points ago

I "liked" the prequels as well, but slowly as I learned more about movies and how they're constructed, the different people involved in constructing them and whatnot, I slowly backtracked from my view of them. Then Plinkett came and just decimated what I knew about the prequels and completely rewrote the way I should view them (aka the correct way).

[–]ravniel 5 points6 points ago

For me it's like I knew they sucked, but I didn't really know how to articulate why. I mean, I knew some of the acting was poor, and the aesthetic was cartoony and overdone, and that Lucas clearly didn't have a clue what he'd created or why it was so successful. But there was always that standard counterargument - 'the original trilogy was just as bad, you just didn't realize it because of nostalgia.' I knew that wasn't true, but I couldn't say why. Why is the original trilogy so goddamned good and the prequels just...aren't?

Plinkett knew why, from both a storytelling and a filmmaking perspective. My brother, who recommended those videos to me, actually avoided watching them himself. Why? Because he likes the prequels, and he knew from the 10 minutes he saw that Plinkett was going to talk him out of that.

[–]foolish_fool 7 points8 points ago

Episode I is a relatively mediocre movie, but at least it is cute and has some cool scenes (pod racing :3).

Episode II is painful to watch (seriously Anikin is the biggest dickhead), but it at least has a few fun star-wars-y bits at the end (i.e. I'd watch it by skipping everything before the scene in the arena - in a sense I spose this means the whole story is irrelevant).

Episode III is pretty ok. Kinda contrived at times (how easily the emperor seduces Anikin), but vaguely worthy of star wars. Suffers a bit from having to fill in all the gaps.

[–]hairyCucumber 0 points1 point ago

What saved Episode III from being complete shit were the duels. To me that was what a Jedi should be compared to a normal soldier, a one man wrecking ball. You get that more from the prequels but I guess that is because of better effects, etc. If they could somehow bring that into something that has the overall quality of say Episode V then you would really have something going.

[–]loinbread 5 points6 points ago

I utterly hate that about the prequel Jedi, sorry. Jumping up and down and all around like some demented Energizer Bunny and swinging their lightsaber around in circles. They don't have any caution and the lightsaber is meant to be such a powerfal, precise weapon. Any object, flesh or otherwise, that meets it is severed and cauterised yet they swing it around indescriminately. This ain't some broadsword or flail. You fall on the flat side of your blade and you're golden. You fall on your fucking lightsaber from any angle and you're ska-rood. It feels a little like I'm going to just start regurgitating Plinkett, but really, there's no emotion or tension to any of the battles in the prequels. Least of all EP3 where you already know the outcome of its most climatic battle. SURPRISE: DARTH VADER GETS BUTCHERED. What a fantastic half hour of fluff that was.

[–]hairyCucumber 2 points3 points ago

They are trained and skilled warriors I doubt they would make a stupid mistake like that. Yes it was flashy but considering how much the Jedi are pumped up you have to deliver and sometimes you have to see the best in a bad situation and say, "Fuck it", and enjoy it.

[–]loinbread 0 points1 point ago

It just seems like such an unnecessary risk to be so showy with such a dangerous tool. There might be someone out who's super talented with a bloody belt sander but he's not going to juggle it like he's mixing cocktails! Especially when they talk about the control and patience and reserve a Jedi is meant to show - it doesn't come through in that high-paced form.

[–]hairyCucumber 0 points1 point ago

I don't think the belt sander was really a good analogy, just the way it was used but I get your point and I do understand that they are supposed to show patience but on the other hand the Sith are supposed to use anger. For the most part anger means more intensity and intensity, for the most part, means speed which is what that was. If you are skilled enough with a weapon you will tend to use more advance techniques which could be seen as showy and with almost any martial art when you see higher skill levels it is accompanied by speed. I am not talking about battles with emotional weight and such but ones with just showcasing skill which is pretty much all they were considering any hope of having any sort of emotion or tension in the plot as a whole were completely eradicated at that point.

[–]CMGangstaRap 16 points17 points ago

Most people who say they hate the prequels grew up with the originals. So basically it's like someone pissing on your childhood memories.

[–]andrewinmelbourne 2 points3 points ago

Ferris Bueller's ad for Honda. Got it.

[–]Soapbox 0 points1 point ago

I was 13 when Episode 1 came out and I thought it was cool. Darth Maul was awesome, pod racers were awesome, some scenes were boring but overall it was a good watch. I never seen the originals so that never influenced me but right now I cant stand the movie. There are way too many faults with it and a number of face-palming moments, but I never caught them as a kid.

The movie is rated PG for a reason, it's a kids movie. They like it, you don't have to. The target audience of the originals and the prequels are two different demographics and some people just cant seem to get it through their heads.

[–]LordRinzler 0 points1 point ago

Episode 1 is aimed for a newer audience and its aimed towards the kids. Why haven't you seen episode 4-6?

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[–]Soytaco 7 points8 points ago

NO

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

[–]BritishHobo 0 points1 point ago

Jesus, downvote for not adding to the discussion (like this comment I'm writing), not because you disagree.

[–]pickanotherusername 7 points8 points ago

I was not as "attached" to the older films as a lot of folks are. The new ones were fine, with the exception of the existence of Jar Jar Binks, and teen Anakin's shitty scowl. Those things really took away from the experience for me. However, Natalie Portman.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

All I will say is that when The Phantom Menace was released I went to see it with my girlfriend of that time. After watching it we felt cheated, me more than her because I was expecting something a bit more enjoyable. So I asked her if she wanted to go see another film instead of going home and that this time she could choose. We watched Cruel Intentions.... it was better than the supposed movie event of the decade and I got to see 2 girls kiss. My girlfriend loved the film and I got sex as a reward.

So in no way was Star Wars a rewarding experience.

[–]MrPumkin 6 points7 points ago

think of it this way:

what if they (i dont know how many there are now...) like a 5th home-alone movie? Wouldnt you stand up and yell "NO! THIS IS JUST PLAIN WRONG!!!"? i know i would...

its the same for starwars. for those who grew up with only eps. 4-6, it seems that eps 1-3 ruined it, the same way that we think every new home-alone is terrible. but a kid growing up today will think that every home-alone is simply awesome.

[–]Great_Zarquon 4 points5 points ago

Except there are plenty of adults who enjoyed the first two Home Alone movies. I don't think I've ever known someone, whether they grew up with Home Alone or not, who enjoys the new ones. Not that your point is invalid, but this is not the best example to accurately illustrate that point.

[–]MrPumkin 0 points1 point ago

okay, fine. not home-alone. how about the newest season of the simpsons? a really good episode hasnt been seen in years (in my opinion)

[–]Great_Zarquon 0 points1 point ago

Have you heard any compliments about that, either?

[–]MrPumkin 0 points1 point ago

have you not? i personally have never been a huge fan of the simpsons, but all my friends complain about how simpsons has drastically gone downhill compared to its glory days (years ago)

[–]_Meece_ 0 points1 point ago

The most recent 2 seasons have been exceptional.

[–]MrPumkin 0 points1 point ago

:-\

[–]nikolaristo 4 points5 points ago

They DO have a 5th Home Alone movie...

[–]MrPumkin 2 points3 points ago

they do? i think a tear just rolled down my face T-T

[–]ejh907 4 points5 points ago

[–]highscore1991 -2 points-1 points ago

For being a movie aimed at kids, the guy was pretty funny.

[–]ejh907 1 point2 points ago

Respectfully disagreed... he just annoyed the hell out of me.

[–]loinbread 0 points1 point ago

Respectfully agreed. Horribly miscast. Who the fuck thought it'd be a good idea to get Samuel "Motherfucker" L. Jackson to portray a futuristic Buddhist Warrior-Monk?

"You will know... when you are calm, at peace, passive. A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, NEVER for attack."

"Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware: anger, fear, aggression."

"Now remember, Samuel, don't raise your voice TOO much when reading George Lucas's copy. Be calm, collected, eloquent... use that enunciated diction you are renown for!"

[–]brokenyard 1 point2 points ago

If he had played Jules Windu he would have been a better character.

[–]loinbread 2 points3 points ago

He's the rogue Jedi with a heart of gold but also a loose cannon.

[–]Anthony_Hopkins 0 points1 point ago

The expanded universe novels sort of treat him as such. For instance, his fighting style is so aggressive it's borderline-dark side.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

No. There's plenty of people out there who like them.

I sort of liked them when I was younger, but they got progressively worse and worse with each viewing to the point where they became unbearable to watch. All three of them are plagued with awful writing, acting, special effects, directing ... pretty much everything about them sucks except for the music. John Williams was the only guy who knew what he was doing during the prequel trilogy. Dat music...

[–]x_yz_x_yz 2 points3 points ago

I don't mind "Attack of the Clones", at least the non-romancy parts of it. The action is decent. And Natalie Portman is fetching in her (torn) white jumpsuit :)

But none of the other movies, prequels or not, achieve the greatness of "The Empire Strikes Back" IMO.

[–]indirect76 4 points5 points ago

I don't hate them, but boy was it difficult to figure out what the plot was about sometimes.

[–]mrtest001 2 points3 points ago

It was revolving around the taxation of trade routes. and this was aimed at kids...un-fucking-believable.

[–]x_yz_x_yz 2 points3 points ago

The plot is about Jedi politics. Right? It's basically a bunch of Jedi, good and evil, competing for mastery. The galaxy is their chessboard.

It was too bad that the citizens of the galaxy couldn't have packed all the Jedi off to some remote planet and let them fight it out on their own. Could have avoided decades of war and massive loss of life.

[–]celticfan008 0 points1 point ago

Fuck, i never realized that...

[–]Sardoodledum 0 points1 point ago

Amen to that. The first time I saw the Phantom Menace about 2/3 into the movie I leaned over and whispered to my friend, "What the hell is going on in this movie?"

[–]jazzberry76 4 points5 points ago

Shrugs I like them. Heck, I even like the Clone Wars. But maybe that's cuz I love the Expanded Universe as well. Although Jar Jar needs to go.

[–]redoswald 3 points4 points ago

The expanded universe needs to be destroyed.

[–]loinbread 1 point2 points ago

You can't destroy a thousand Mary Sues and Gary Stus!

[–]Alexxandros 3 points4 points ago

I like to pretend the prequels never happened.

And then Lucas re-released them in 3D.

FUCK YOU LUCAS! FUCK YOU!

[–]jazzberry76 0 points1 point ago

But he hasn't wrung out everly last cent from the cash cow!

[–]jazzberry76 0 points1 point ago

Ouch. I guess I walked into that one.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

The acting was so bad. The lines were terrible too. It's weird. Even the good actors were clearly struggling to make the dialogue sound natural.

One of the things I remember from trying to watch them when they first came out was that the characters don't use contractions. Nothing sounds more awkward than that, but shitty science fiction movies will do that to make alien/ancient beings seem more legitimate. I have no idea why. They're speaking English. Why can't they use contractions?

The love scenes between padme (sp?) and aniken were pretty stupid. Rolling around in the fields. Really? Fucking really? How tacky and stupid.

Basically, it was hard to believe the same person who wrote 4-6 also wrote 1-3. The things I enjoyed about 4-6 weren't there in the newer movies. 4-6 was also centered around a small group of people having adventures. 1-3 spent too much time trying to document the empire splitting up.

[–]loinbread 0 points1 point ago

Well, from what I recall the final scripts for 5-6 were written by outsider contributers contracted by Lucas. He only provided the basic story for them to base their screenplays on.

[–]Th3Marauder 1 point2 points ago

On a semi-unrelated note, I was just thinking that Phantom Menace in 3D might actually work despite the fact it is a post-conversion, simply because a lot of the film was already CGI, so rather than converting the CG elements like they would with the live action elements, they can actually go back and get the extra information from the original models and animation.

Just a random thought.

[–]ColonCatastrophe 1 point2 points ago

I unfortunately am a child from a time between the two trilogies. I remember watching The Empire Strikes Back with my dad at my aunt's house one Thanksgiving before the Special Edition trilogy was released in theaters in '97 (which we did both go and see together.) Even so, I was still fairly young when I saw The Phantom Menace, and I was mystified by being able to see a new part of one of the best parts of my childhood in theaters, like my dad did when he was younger.

Even though I hate what has happened to the franchise as a whole, I will occasionally throw on The Phantom Menace to fall asleep to, because even though I strongly agree with all the negativity towards the films, there's always the memories of getting a new figure and thinking of the time when it came out. So, I don't like them, but they do bring back memories that I enjoyed.

[–]ChronicallyHappy 1 point2 points ago

I never hated them, but when I watched them, they never really did anything for me. AFTER I watched the OT, and watching those movies for the first time, I really enjoyed them. They aren't my favourite films or top ten or anything, but I still think they are just good movies.

[–]stuckit 1 point2 points ago

It is supposed to be the story of the evolution of the evil that is Darth Vader, a Jedi who becomes a genocidal Sith Lord. It was PG and aimed at kids, had horribly wooden dialogue, and a story that was all over the map, besides the inconsistencies.

[–]Overtow 2 points3 points ago

As movies, they aren't the steamiest piles of refuse out there. As part of a larger legacy, a series of films adored and respected by millions across the globe, as Star Wars movies, they are an abomination.

[–]ProdigalSheep 4 points5 points ago

They are shit films by any standards, IMO. I'm not a die hard fan of the originals by any means, so Lucas wasn't shitting on my childhood in the least. They were just shit movies.

[–]grahvity 3 points4 points ago

I'm happy that you got to enjoy them but sorry, I like plot to go with my CGI and the Phantom Menace is INCOMPREHENSIBLE. I initially thot that the problem was me until I watched Red Letter Media's review and I was like YES, yes. I couldn't follow it either. The other prequels just kind of blend into each other in my memory so I can't recall what happened in which movie. I upvoted your post hoping there's more discussion cuz you got more explaining to do.

[–]StaffSergeant 4 points5 points ago

YES

[–]akathatguy2 1 point2 points ago

I'll watch them without complaint. I think people just judge them harshly because of the francise they belong too. Really if you analyze the original three with the same amount of scrutiny you'll see that they're about the same quality.

[–]Gunski 0 points1 point ago

Exactly my thought. People defend the original 3 because it a was part of their childhood.

[–]Starbugg1 0 points1 point ago

Okay, just do me a favor and watch the climactic scene in Episode I and Episode IV. Or here, I'll give a quick recap..

Episode IV is Luke rushing through the Death Star trench as all his buddies get picked off one by one... such a tense scene... we know the whole fate of the galaxy depends on him firing those torpedoes correctly.. the rebel base is already in site and the Empire is revving up the Death Star... Luke says screw the computer and uses the Force, he takes the shot and hooray, galaxy saved. Cue celebration.

Episode I.... Anakin jumps in cockpit of spaceship which conveniently has a childsized helmet and hits a bunch of buttons and takes off. He says "let's go left, that's a good trick... whoa! now go right! coool." Anakin then accidentally crashes into trade federation control ship and blows it all up. Cue celebration.

The prequels lacked heart and tension and meaning through and through. Did you really care about the romance between Padme and Anakin... did you feel the pathos at Obi Wan's tragic failure and attempt at redemption?

[–]Gunski 3 points4 points ago

Honestly, I thought the climax of Episode IV was extremely cheesy and childish. I must agree that Episodes 1-3 were not better than Episodes 4-5 but they are not as bad as people suggest. If 1-3 were released before 4-6, I guarantee you that the response would be different.

[–]Starbugg1 0 points1 point ago

I was arguing that at least in terms of the traditional conventions of good storytelling (going back at least as far as the ancient Greeks), Episode IV hits all the marks while Episode I misses them.

[–]200balloons 0 points1 point ago

There's enough "Star Wars" in them for me (I grew up with the original movies). I don't argue with people who hate them, compared to the original trilogy. It's useless, & they are often correct in their criticisms; I just can't see the glass as half-empty.

[–]ReaganYouth 0 points1 point ago

When's the last time you've seen all of the Star Wars films? I say this because you probably saw all of the movies around the same time. If it's been a while, I recommend having a Star Wars marathon and watch every film in a row. Individually, the prequels aren't that bad, but when you compare them to the original masterpieces, you'll see the difference.

[–]leipzig18 0 points1 point ago

I can watch them, and do not really get annoyed by them. However, I think that Lucas was significantly handcuffed by the fact that he made and released 4-6 first. He had to fill in too much story and background in order to make really entertaining and understandable movies. If he had written 1-3 whilst writing 4-6 I believe that they would have ended up being much better, mostly because of the fact that there would have been much more continuity.

[–]Starbugg1 2 points3 points ago*

There was still enough mystery to make an entirely new trilogy without knowing how it would all end. We knew the fate of Anakin and Obi Wan but that was about it. He could have centralized the story around a few new protagonists, maybe make everything from Padme's perspective and how she dealt with Anakin (like how the OT was from Luke's perspective and how he dealt with Anakin). We didn't know when she died (just that she died when Leia was really young).

They could have had the twins early on in the first movie.. then Anakin, a hot-shot Han Solo-type pilot gets chummy with this young Jedi named Obi Wan while doing a transport job for him (parallels nice with Episode IV). They get into some shit (its the Clone War) and Anakin ends up being a hero for the republic but he and Obi Wan get captured...and Padme has to find them and bail them out. She leaves the kids on Alderaan with her royal nannies and finds her husband and the Jedi, before getting trapped into a situation with them herself.

The second film is about her and Anakin getting back to the kids, with Obi Wan teaching some Jedi things to Anakin unconventionally... eventually Anakin gets mixed up in some dark Jedi shit despite good intentions for his wife and twin kids (the constant perils, Jedi training, and dark ending parallel with Episode V).

In the third film, Anakin becomes the villain and most of the film is about Padme running from Vader and hiding the kids.. but through some cunning work by Obi Wan, Vader is convinced at least one of the twins (Leia) is killed while Padme hides Luke on Tatooine. (This one does not parallel Ep VI, but is rather an anti-ROTJ... Anakin repeatedly does the opposite of the things Luke does in the 6th film and we see the tragedy of it.)

See, that's already better premise and I'm not even a screenwriter, just some bitching fanboy!

[–]black_bisector 0 points1 point ago

watch the plinkett reviews an you will realize how terrible they are. They came out in theaters when i was around 12 and i was just like wow cool star wars stuff and didn't realize it.

[–]j5a9 0 points1 point ago

I was in love with the original trilogy for just a few years before the Phantom Menace came out (I was 11 or so). I thought it was pretty cool at the time, but looking back, it's def more of a kids movie. Jar Jar/Gungans are shit, there are a lot of pretty ridiculously racist aliens, battle droids are lame, and GL didn't need to try to work in every single character from the original trilogy. Episodes 2 and 3 are fun; i don't have a problem with them aside from the bad acting/dialogue.

[–]AceDrummer 0 points1 point ago

I enjoy them, but most likely because I was 16 by the time ROTS came out, and I was a huge SW fan since I was 3. So I grew up with all 6.

[–]hooch 0 points1 point ago

I liked the second 2 a lot, but I'm a little afraid to say it around here. Should note that I'm 26, so I grew up in a pre-prequel world.

[–]bobdelany 0 points1 point ago

I liked III. It was entertaining enough. Also, Phantom Menace was so close to being very good but a Jar Jar and a Jake Lloyd got in the way. And the over-the-top asian-accented viceroys are pretty tough to watch. But Darth Maul is awesome. They should have given him some mechanical legs and brought him back.

[–]randomusername5 0 points1 point ago

I thought reddit agreed on "NO, YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE, EVER."??

[–]rmeddy 0 points1 point ago

Mostly because I'm not a Star Wars fan so I never invested myself too heavily in them, many other were much bigger letdowns for me simply because I fell for the hype.

I never had that Loss Aversion for Star Wars

[–]fish619407 0 points1 point ago

Who was the protagonist of The Phatom Menace? You're trying to figure it out right now, huh.

STOP There is no protagonist. Even video games have a protagonist.

Not a good film, period.

[–]TheYetti 0 points1 point ago

I dont hate them. I find them lacking in areas, but otherwise enjoyable.

[–]Starbugg1 0 points1 point ago

I take no issue with people who say they liked or even loved the prequels. It's your personal sentiment and no one should take that away from you. Maybe you grew up with them as a kid, or maybe (as it was for me), you liked them in the moment.. through the anticipation and premieres for each film with your friends. But if you say these are quality movies with good dialogue, a developed plot, strong characters, and edge-of-seat tension, you are in my opinion 100% WRONG. These are bad movies with a couple good sequences in each.

[–]scallycap94 0 points1 point ago

Yes.

[–]movshare 0 points1 point ago

I was 13yrs old in 1977. I had no interest in Star Wars after seeing clips of the "Here they come" scene on the Mike Douglas TV talk show. Eventually I did see it, and after leaving the theater, as the large crowd of people passed me, I stopped and said to myself " What did I Just see?" in an awe-inspiring way. For the next two films, I was always at the theater on May 25th. For TESB in 1980, I had to pull the school fire alarm while on hall guard duty to leave during the commotion.

When Ep. 1 began, it felt like a comic book. The original films felt that they could be real life but the prequels were/are just stupid.

Harmy films (dot com) has links to his de-specialized bluray original triliogy versions which are outstanding and the only way they should be remembered.

[–]mraggoth 0 points1 point ago

I'm almost 21 and I liked the prequels.

I completely understand their flaws and as far as the original star wars is concerned, they're almost completely different movies. Despite that, I still like them as they are.

[–]mrtest001 0 points1 point ago*

Here is why everyone hates them. When a movie can be objectively proven to suck, there is no argument.

[–]raxies94 0 points1 point ago

Not gonna lie, I feel like they interviewed people who had never seen the prequels. The woman even had to ask who Qui-gon Jinn was. The challenge is tougher to do with prequel characters, but by no means impossible.

[–]mrtest001 0 points1 point ago

I liked that clip because I really related to it. 'Mono-tone' IS the best description of Queen Amidala. I am just lost for words how bad those movies were. Those people did watch the movie - that's the whole point. They watched it, but the characters were so bland that they don't make an impression.

[–]brokenyard 0 points1 point ago

Simply put, George Lucas needed to not be the director. He needed someone to essentially peer-review the product. No one was in a position to question any idea he came up with and that ended up hurting the movies. I don't hate the prequels but there's no excuse for them not to be better than they were.

[–]croutonZA 0 points1 point ago

I didn't hate them either, but I never really liked the original films either. I was born after Return of the Jedi so maybe that has something to do with it. Truth be told, if it wasn't for Knights of the Old Republic I'd have no interest in the Star Wars universe at all.

[–]Anzai 0 points1 point ago

They have terrible writing. That's my biggest problem with them. I don't even mind the plot that much with the trade federation etc, but Lucas should have farmed out his outlines to a talented writer rather than trying to do it himself.

He tried to shoehorn in too much stuff and it didn't feel organic at all. The original series certainly didn't have great writing either, but it did have a far more carefree attitude. That said, I don't really like Return of The Jedi either, and those movies get a lot more credibility than they should simply because of the nostalgia factor. It was groundbreaking at the time, near the dawn of the Summer blockbuster, but I do wonder how the originals would be taken if there was no legacy and they were released in 2012 with no expectations.

[–]omGenji 0 points1 point ago

One of my issues with the prequels is the fact that it seems almost directed at kids, which many others have said. Why?...I never considered the originals as kids movies. This is a terrible example but if you were to make prequels to the Alien movies and make them more 'kid friendly', that would pretty much guarantee a failure. I understand the desire for a wider audience, but they go way to far in my opinion.

[–]SaiMan 0 points1 point ago

I quite enjoyed them, maybe because I saw the prequels first.

[–]quiettimes 0 points1 point ago

If you aren't the only one, you should be.

[–]kranzb2 0 points1 point ago

I think they are awesome.

[–]firefox3d 0 points1 point ago

Simply put: Too much reliance on special effects and not enough attention being focused on the story is what killed the prequels for a lot of people. When you watch the original trilogy, there's a real feeling of love that went into making them. Everything in the original films just feels so organic compared to the sterile, CGI plastered prequels.

I think maybe once cynicism sets in and you begin to hate the world like the rest of us, you'll start seeing what we mean.

[–]FaelSafe 0 points1 point ago*

I was very young when they all came out, only 9 when episode III came out, and I fell in love with them (the originals as well mind you), so I have never really hated them. I definitely dislike episode I the most though.

I'm still seeing them all in theatres.

EDIT: and I also want to say that I enjoy the Prequals Technology more so than the Originals.

Battle Droids <3

[–]FaelSafe 0 points1 point ago

Also, am I the only one who didn't hate the Clone Wars movie?

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

I liked attack of the clones, not so much the other two.

[–]Alexxandros 1 point2 points ago

That was arguably the WORST of the prequels.

I mean how the fuck do you make excuses for this?

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

Hayden christensen is an untalented tool....

[–]Crazy_Jay 1 point2 points ago

Don't blame Christensen, the kid's an OK actor. That shitty script would have made Daniel Day Lewis look like an 8-year-old bitch.

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

Then how do you explain Jumper....

[–]Crazy_Jay 1 point2 points ago

Haven't seen it

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

Agreed. But this line wasn't written by Lucas. So your argument doesn't hold. That movie sucked ass.

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

Maybe it wasn't the best movie, but it was the most "star warsy", crazy alien monsters, awesome light saber battles, etc...

[–]Crazy_Jay 1 point2 points ago*

Have you never seen the Original Trilogy? Star Wars isn't about alien monsters or crazy lightsaber fights. Hell, Luke Skywalker hardly uses his lightsaber at all, and when he does he just swings it around. It's not some fancy over-choreographed mess.

Start Wars is about redemption, good vs. evil, and growing emotional bonds with the characters. Not making thirty scary bad guys, giving them all red lightsabers, and then putting as many explosions on the screen as possible.

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

Star Wars is not about light saber battles and special effects. Way to completely miss the fucking point of the original trilogy.

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

Please enlighten me, what was the main point of it all?

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

It's about a boy who has great ambition to do something great but must learn to control his ambition so that it doesn't consume him and lead to his downfall like it did his father. This is a very basic interpretation but sums it up in a nutshell.

So way to miss the fucking point.

[–]Herdnerfer 0 points1 point ago

And this ideal is portrayed through exploding death stars, hands being chopped off, frozen people and big sentient slugs how exactly?

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

You really have no idea how to watch a movie do you?

[–]relaxedwaffle 0 points1 point ago

although there are worthwhile themes like good vs evil, what happens when ambition turns to greed, and things like that, i'm willing to bet that a lot of people enjoyed star wars because of the lightsaber duels, aliens, space battles and things of that nature

[–]Alexxandros 0 points1 point ago

Well sure they are enjoyable. But at the heart of Star Wars is a good story, and that's why the new ones just suck and blow fat chunks.

[–]nikolaristo 0 points1 point ago

I watched the prequels first, then the original. To be honest, I liked the prequel better.

[–]nikolaristo 0 points1 point ago

Okay... downvote me because I'm contributing my own opinion to the thread.

[–]spp41 0 points1 point ago

Everyone has a right to their own opinion but ... what the fuck?

[–]DirtBurglar -1 points0 points ago

Yes.

[–]franklyimshocked -1 points0 points ago

Yes, yes you are. Do you live alone with cats?

[–]LTALZ[S] 0 points1 point ago

No, actually I don't. If you would've read, it says I am 15 years old.