Should we imprison all psychopaths?

Moontouch · 1 month

Where do you draw the line between a psychopath and a normal individual? I don't think it's ethical to do this in the first place, but even if one did I don't see how you could implement such a practice. I'm reminded of a couple books which argue that 'normalcy' is actually in itself a form of pathology:

Erich Fromm- The Pathology of Normalcy

Steven Bartlett - The Pathology of Man

meacle · 1 month

Nietzsche didn't think that master morality was an ideal that one should strive for - although it led to a healthy and more natural style of life, it was too narrow and constricted for Nietzsche. He certainly didn't claim that one should do everything that gives you power/wealth. He stressed the importance of creating a morality for one's self, one which would be 'beyond' both 'master' morality and 'slave' morality.

potatoinhell · 1 month

"There is, strictly speaking, no "pressupositionless" science, the thought of such a thing is unthinkable, paralogical: a philosophy, a "faith", must always first be there to give science a direction..." - Nietzsche

It always blows my mind how individuals in the hard sciences, which I myself am from having a degree in engineering, don't understand that it is unquestioned philosophical assumptions which guide the interpretation of their experiments. It seems like such a simple and obvious truism.

mauceri · 2 months

"The discipline of suffering, of great suffering - do you not know that only this discipline has created all enhancements of man so far?"

beemer · 2 months

There is also the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Perhaps it doesn't have as extensive an article base as Stanford, yet I find the articles are more clear, concise, and overall a more enjoyable read.

im4monkees · 2 months

The pain of regret and 'what if' is worse than the pain of failure.

reiroc · 2 months

Both were against philistinism - for a time Nietzsche thought Wagner would be the one to redeem German culture from its petty materialism. However, while attending Wagner's Bayreuth festival he realized Wagner was self conceited and that the attendants were more concerned with having a 'good time' than with transforming culture.

Nietzsche broke with Wagner and entered into a postivistic (naturalistic) phase, in which is renounced Wagner's romantic pessimism (which was derived from Schopenhauer). No longer thinking that art alone could raise German culture above its philistinism, Nietzsche began to write for 'single individuals' who had the strength to affirm their life (amor fati) without requiring any metaphysical meaning.

Not sure if that answers your question but that's what I remember from my readings.

neubs · 3 months

I would. Although most of it will definitely go over a child's head, Nietzsche's use of eagles, snakes, and lions will surely captivate their imagination. And I think the main themes are ones that a child could understand, and personally ones I would hope to instill in my own children.

panxzz · 3 months

Nietzsche would never advise you to any unconditional code of conduct.

tyrannosaursbacon · 3 months

I struggle with the same thoughts. But remember that Nietzsche thought nihilism was only a transition period. It arises when our belief in god and unconditional values or norms is destroyed by the will to truth. However, the strong spirit emerges from nihilism and is able to create values and impose them on reality itself (this is partly what he meant by will to power).

I suggest finding a meaningful project and dedicating yourself to it wholeheartedly.

metalmusicatheism · 3 months

Be careful not to interpret this as a form of relativism, Nietzsche was definitely not a relativist. He thought his strength of spirit allowed him to grasp a form of truth most people were too weak to grasp.

TurdHobo · 4 months

The autonomous determination of meaning. AI approaches significance as something which must be added to an agent. Living organisms autonomously carve up their environment into spaces of meaning which are significant from its perspective and not the perspective of some outside designer.

On a side note I think AI should stop talking about replicating 'human cognition' and start by attempting to develop agents which can replicate insect cognition, for example.

pakifood · 4 months

"In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts: they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty."

That is a great quote.

drumbum8000 · 4 months

Wow, didn't expect to see his name here. I hope in time his work gets the respect it deserves, I think every human being should be aware of his core ideas.

Suzie157 · 4 months

Glad they got 'there will be no wild animals' wrong.

Fireinthepants · 4 months

"The vast majority of people suck and are not worth talking to or interacting with."

I haven't heard a statement in the last few days I've agreed with more.

kElevrA7 · 4 months

"A traveler who had seen many countries, peoples and several of the earth's continents was asked what attribute he had found in men everywhere. He said: "They have a propensity for laziness." To others, it seems that he should have said: "They are all fearful. They hide themselves behind customs and opinions." In his heart every man knows quite well that, being unique, he will be in the world only once and that there will be no second chance for his oneness to coalesce from the strangely variegated assortment that he is: he knows it but hides it like a bad conscience--why? From fear of his neighbor, who demands conformity and cloaks himself with it. But what is it that forces the individual to fear his neighbor, to think and act like a member of a herd, and to have no joy in himself? Modesty, perhaps, in a few rare cases. For the majority it is idleness, inertia, in short that propensity for laziness of which the traveler spoke. He is right: men are even lazier than they are fearful, and fear most of all the burdensome nuisance of absolute honesty and nakedness." - Nietzsche

sweepysoil · 4 months

Because humans have massacred, destroyed, and inflicted horrible suffering on their own species since the dawn of civilization.

Anth741 · 5 months

Because it's not as meaningful. As children objects are new and fresh, and we are continually learning how to behave towards them and interpret them. The meaning of objects in the world has a depth and mystery which stimulates our imagination and makes the world seem like a magical place. As we grow older we learn the ways in which we are expected to relate to objects. A tree is no longer a mysterious entity, home to fairies or cool bugs, but instead is something that provides shade, can be chopped down for wood, and sheds leaves in the fall that need to be raked up.

In earlier times humans had a more personal relationship with the universe - it was thought to be inhabited by spirits, and man felt a deep relationship with all things. Today, objects have mere practical use, and so we don't have any sense for the mysterious or the 'sacred'. And so, the world seems distant and boring.

Fissionary · 5 months

That is a beautifully written book.

reformed-nihilist · 5 months

No worries, good luck!

reformed-nihilist · 5 months

If you are content with your life and it truly is a prosperous life, then kudos to you - in my opinion you are one in a million.

What I meant is this. Most people are not content - human beings it seems are through and through anxious, insecure, and fearful animals. Yet in my opinion most people 'lie' to themselves and others about their fears. They 'mask' them with cultural norms and social concepts - and thus are delusional. There are few people who have the knowledge and courage to be honest about their situation in life, and therefore most people are 'delusional'.

I have yet in my life to meet a 'happy' individual living a 'prosperous' life. Those who claim they are may even believe it superficially, but from what I observe they are cloaking their deep seated insecurities or anxieties.

If you are content with your life you are not delusional. And there is no objective justification for any way of life, period. But in my opinion humans are riddled with fears and anxieties which makes it extremely hard to be 'truly', not superficially, happy. And I have never met someone who is 'truly' happy. That is what I mean by saying most people are delusional.

In my humble opinion I think to be truly happy one needs to experience their fears and anxieties that most people ignore and hide for their entire life. One needs to 'move' through them, one needs to stop being delusional. This is hard and frightening, so I can understand why most people are delusional.

reformed-nihilist · 5 months

I see it a 'mostly a big lie' as well, however I have trouble 'lying' myself to happiness, and like to spend more time focusing on how most people are delusional by lying to themselves without even realizing it. I hope eventually I can lie to myself in a constructive way and be ok that I'm condemned to live a 'lie' no matter how I live.

towardsthesun · 5 months

Have you ever heard of dynamical cognitive science? Basically it attempts to explain cognition in terms of dynamical systems theory. Sounds a bit like what you're doing....It's interesting stuff.

jamesbond664 · 5 months

I think there is actually a lot of scientific backing that conformity is completely natural. Children imitate others to learn how to relate to objects and other people - this has been shown over and over. There is no doubt this innate tendency carries over into adulthood. In ambiguous situations everyone thinks other people have information that they don't, and so everyone looks around and copies others.

I have disdain for the blind conformity that most adhere to however. It seems so disgusting to identify one's self with the 'herd' (I've read a lot of Nietzsche) and not to understand that you have the capacity and ability to think for yourself and determine how to behave without merely copying others.

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